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captain_slinky ([personal profile] captain_slinky) wrote2010-02-06 09:11 am

TEABAG!!!

I really hope that The Teabaggers (or "Teabag Movement", or whatever they finally decide on for a name) become a full-fledged Political Party soon, along the same lines as The Libertarians, The Green Party and all of the other etceteras out there. It would REALLY help The Republican party weed out all of the more extreme members and bring some amount of focus to both factions instead of having them constantly at odds. And it would be nice to see the actual message of each party without it being muddied by the agenda of the others.

I'm still a bleeding-heart Liberal Democrat who believes in big government and even bigger government spending, but I'm excxited to see as many different opinions as possible so I can tear them apart and look down upon those who think differently than I do :)

[identity profile] lynna12000.livejournal.com 2010-02-07 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
What we REALLY need to do is get rid of the Electoral College voting system. In this modern age, it should not be considered 'too difficult' to have each individual vote count. PLUS, we should make voting mandatory. I'm tired of people bitching and moaning about the way things are done, when they didn't even bother to vote.

If you are 18 or over, you should have to register to vote. Simplify things and make it part of the drivers license/identification card process. Take care of 2 things at once.

[identity profile] sasjhwa.livejournal.com 2010-02-07 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
If the government forces you to do something they only succeed because they have the power to take away your freedom (prison) or your property (fines).

Forcing someone to register to vote and forcing them to vote are two entirely different things. You can force people to vote just as you force men to register for the selective service. The threat of going to jail is a big incentive toward compliance. We would have to authorize this to become a police state to enforce it, however, as violation of the law would require punishment of likely hundreds of thousands of people if not more who would not register as an act of protest.

Then comes the issue of forcing people to vote. A vote is a selection between two or more different ideas and values. The state, under the Constitution, doesn't have the authority to force anyone to endorse an idea that they might oppose. It can't control our thoughts. A vote is an endorsement. It is a violation of the freedom of speech for the government to tell me who I have to vote for or if I have to vote for anyone at all. There are countries in the world where the state does this but they are the the darkest of places with the smallest amount of freedom.

Such a violation of my freedom would be intolerable.

If you are tired of people complaining now, wait until you hear the complaining when someone is forced, under threat of prison to choose between two people whose ideas they hate. The government will discover very quickly why the right to keep and bear arms was put into the Constitution by the founding fathers. It was so that if the government every became tyrannical the people would have the power to overthrow it by force of arms.

Any government which tells me that I need to choose one of two people or I lose my freedom or my property (if a fine is levied instead of jail time) demands to be overthrown.

[identity profile] lynna12000.livejournal.com 2010-02-08 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I should have added that we need to abolish the two party system. But then again, abolishing the Electoral College system will take care of multiple issues as well. People would be more likely to vote if they thought that their vote actually counted.

Something has GOT to change somewhere. Legally requiring people to vote is not the most optimal way to achieve change. But the mere attempt to do so would get (most) people to actually THINK about the process.

One other thing....the Constitution does say that we have the right to keep and bear arms. It DOESN'T say that we have the right to bullets. I'm sure that some bright bulb in Congress or Senate has thought of that one. It would be easier to keep an eye on both houses if more people voted.