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So I really can't wrap my head around the Government Shutdown, and I'll admit that it's probably because the vast majority of the people I associate with are Liberal, Democrat and/or apologetically Republican/Conservative ("The Ones Who Are Kind Of Ashamed Of The Republican Party Right Now And Want To Separate From The Tea Party").

So I found this posted on Facebook, kind of sums up the whole thing for me... anybody care to present the opposing viewpoint/facts?

No. This is not the fault of Obama, nor is it the fault of both the Republicans and the Democrats.

The Democrats proposed a bill. It was passed by both houses of Congress, and signed into law. The law was challenged on Constitutional grounds, and was upheld by the highest court in the land. The GOP then ran a candidate for President who promised to repeal the law. He lost by a significant margin. They have attempted nearly fifty repeals of the law. All of them failed. Now the Republicans are playing havoc with people's lives by shutting down the government until this bill that has passed through every single facet of our constitutional representative democracy's system of checks and balances is modified somehow? No. There is nothing to negotiate. They had several opportunities to repeal, overhaul, or otherwise get rid of the AHCA, and they failed at all of them. This isn't about two sides refusing to compromise. This is about one side refusing to accept the consequences of failure on their part.

Date: 2013-10-02 08:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aurora77
It's pretty accurate.

I wouldn't quite group all of the Republicans into this, though. Not all of them are participating in this madness. There are a few reasonable souls.

If you remove the extremely conservative ones and the ones who want to push their religious views on others, I wouldn't have that much of a problem with the party. Oh, wait, that would pretty well gut the party. XD

I consider myself fairly independent, but the lesser of the evils has seemed to lean heavily toward the Democrats these days.

Date: 2013-10-03 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynna12000.livejournal.com
Why try to bring logic into the argument?

Date: 2013-10-03 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenpear.livejournal.com
There are Republicans who just want to pass the spending bill. It's that 18% Tea Part faction that's causing the problems. They remind me of a whiny five year old who throws a hissy fit if they don't get their way.

Date: 2013-10-04 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynna12000.livejournal.com
I'm still trying to figure out why the President of the United States, elected by a majority of voters, became the adversary of Congress.

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