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My own personal belief; let's see if this gets circulated at all. I think it's fair and balanced even though The Republicans are compared to The Evil Empire.

The Liberal Democrats version of Government is Star Trek/The Federation; The Conservative Republicans version is Star Wars/The Empire.

The Dems are in a clean and shiney optimistic universe where there is apparently no poverty or hunger. As long as you're a member of The Federation, The Federation will take care of you! Replicators and holodecks for everyone, making sure that your every need and desire is filled. And when they DO hit a pocket of resistance or some bad guys (Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi, Borg) who DON'T want to be a part of that they are confused and dumbstruck without an idea of how to deal with it. it takes a lot of ingenuity and luck to avoid getting blown up!

The Reps live in a dirtier, more realistic universe. Dessert planets full of slaves and untrustable aliens are around every corner. They're under constant attack by Rebel Forces (mostly pirates, terrorists and dissenting members of The Empire). The only way to succeed in their universe is through lies and manipulation, trying to change the system from the inside yet getting corrupted by it yourself and, of course, putting a lot of faith in ancient all-powerful religions.

Then there's The Green Party, which is like, I dunno... Plan 9 From Outer-Space?

Date: 2008-09-22 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pipermage452.livejournal.com
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!

Date: 2008-09-22 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberlorien.livejournal.com
I disagree. The Dems are The Evil Empire that want nothing but to remove any personal freedoms you might have had and over tax you so that their larger government can live cushy posh lives. I'm not saying the Reps are without their desires for gold plated toilet seats but the Dems fight SW Empire better. Maybe they can be that Alliance from Firefly.

Date: 2008-09-22 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Thenkyew... I've been putting a lot of thought in to that Star Wars/Star trek comparison :)

Date: 2008-09-22 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
What version of Star Wars are you watchig that has the Evil Empire removing any personal freedoms people might have had and over tax you so that their larger government can live cushy posh lives???

Try to take your own personal views on party differences out of it and look at the parties subjectively. Both have good points and bad points. Personally, I think that The Federation probably got that way by employing a lot of nearly communist taxation policies and romoval of personal freedoms in order to achieve the whole "Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one" thing they're so proud of. The Star Trek universe (and the Federation) are all about redistribution of wealth and supression of "Unpopular" rights (such as the right of Khan to rule the Universe with an iron fist, the right of The Klingons to kill whatever they want, the rights of the Ferengi to make a profit regardless of how many lives may be lost, etc).

On the flip-side, The Empire is all about letting folks enjoy their personal freedoms, even if that personal freedom includes forming a rebel alliance. They KNOW the evil that lurks in the hearts of man (and alien), they KNOW about corruption. It's not something that's exclusive to them... in their universe, EVERYBODY is out for their own best interests and they know it and will do anything to try and manipulate the situation to their best interests. But The Liberal Media of that universe is bent on portraying the Empire as being "Evil", when all they're doing is trying to do what's best for them and their way of life. The Liberal Media in that universe has even gone so far as to portray The Rebel Alliance as HEROES for gosh sakes, when all they are is a bunch of pirates and terrorists! In the Star Wars Universe, the Empire has to fight agains their own enemies AND their public persona.

I mean really... vilification of The Religious Right... vilification of The Sith... same difference!

Date: 2008-09-23 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotski.livejournal.com
BWAHAHAHA! So I'm sure you've noticed, I'm pretty conservative myself...Like, A LOT. Yeah, I voted for Bush and I'm still proud of the guy. One of my best friends went to Iraq with Marines, got pretty messed up in the head, yadda yadda yadda, he's still conservative even after all he went through. You really make my day with all your political posts...even though I disagree with you 100%...it's still very entertaining. Thanks for the smiles! :)

Date: 2008-09-23 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
I can understand that... up till about 2001 I was a pretty staunchly Republican dude, voted for Bush, listened to Rush Limbaugh, blah blah blah... then Rush got caught in some pretty ballsy lies that he never acknowledged and that was my "I think that's kinda fuckinbullshit" moment (as Patton Oswalt would say). So I started looking for truth and decided to go with whichever party lied the least. So far since that day it's been The Democrats :)

Date: 2008-09-23 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotski.livejournal.com
Whatever works! I would never have thought of you EVER being a Republican! hehehe. To each their own, I love this country! :)

Date: 2008-09-23 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
To make it as sexist as possible, let's just say that America is like a beautiful woman. Some of us love her full bouncy breasts, others love her swaying luscious hips... but all of us love her for her mind :)

Date: 2008-09-23 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotski.livejournal.com
BWAHAHAHA! OMFG that is awesome. SERIOUSLY we may disagree politically, but SHIT man you're hilarious! :)

Date: 2008-09-23 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberlorien.livejournal.com
The part of SW that changed my opinion on the Empire was in one of the prequels, none of which I particularly liked. I've only sat through them once because it was like an exercise in my patience building skills.

The entire part about how the one senator convinces them that he should be Emperor just seems like such a real possibility to me. But the "elected" Queen (huh?) in her ornate attire and cushy lifestyle. Sure it was a how Queen would be, but that's the point - she doesn't at all seem like a reflection of the people she supposedly represents. An elected official should relate to someone in the voting population, maybe a rich minority, but I don't remember seeing decadence in other people's lives other those in power in SW.

Here, you can be rich and choose to not be involved if you want; but in SW, they have some how accumulated all the wealth and the politicians live off it.

I don't think Vader wants the Rebellion to exist no less thrive. He wants the dark side of the force to be greater than the other side of the force. It's a sort of false choice, like any cult or slimy salesman, talks you into making your decision even if it goes against your better judgment; it's all about manipulating in a way that makes it seem like people made those choices for themselves when they were really forced under duress (oh, say blowing up a planet or two) or simply brainwashed.

Date: 2008-09-23 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zachary-cole.livejournal.com
Personally, I get all wound up about America's cankles.

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