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Just wondering if anybody has heard of a business like the one I'm planning...

Part sub-sandwich shop, part comic book store. Fresh home-made soups and other side dishes such as potato salad, macaroni salad, fresh baked cookies and home made potato chips. "Grab-N-Go" lunches that include a sandwich, a side dish and two random comic books. Dining area in the front, full service comic book store in the back.

And the name of this business? "Heroes".

Date: 2008-04-10 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nani-ka.livejournal.com
I love the name.

No, I haven't personally heard of that exact thing. Have heard of similar - the obvious being Wizards of the Coast in the U-dist, and there was a cybercafe in Lynnwood for awhile where the food situation was similar but it was a gaming LAN on the non-food side of things. Freak might have, simply because he's a bigger geek than me & gets out more.

Date: 2008-04-10 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogh-sensei.livejournal.com
I've never heard of this, but it sounds like win on a plate.

Date: 2008-04-10 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritters.livejournal.com
It sounds like asking for trouble, honestly. I know some people mix food and reading stores, but subs are particularly sauce-ey, as compared to like bagels and such, and comics have paper that sucks up any food mess, unlike magazines and such.

Not that I'm trying to kill your dream or anything. GREAT name. I just think the business model needs some editing.

Date: 2008-04-10 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
I hear ya. My subs wouldn't be all the greasy like a Subway Sandwich. My main thinking is that most of the folks I know buy their new comics each week then immediately take them to some fast food joint to read. Subs seem to be the least-greasy option here, as opposed to say Burger & Fries. But I want the restaurant end to be strong enough to support the comics end should that ever come to a slow time, and vice-versa.

Plus, I love the play-on-words for the name :)

Date: 2008-04-10 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastilla.livejournal.com
Love the play on words!

Date: 2008-04-10 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Me too! I think it just might be clever enough to bring in some media attention!

I'm thinking it should be in Renton... close to Nintendo and Microsoft.

Date: 2008-04-10 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eleri.livejournal.com
Maybe some control on the flow of stuff, like comics can go into the food area, but food can't come into the comics area, would cut down on potential lost product from food damage.

Ad a rentable back room for gaming, and yer on.

Date: 2008-04-10 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strryeyedgrrl.livejournal.com
I agree with the control of keeping food out of the comics area. Also, maybe keeping the food area a little more mainstream as well, to attract the non-geeky types so as to ensure a continuous cash flow.

Date: 2008-04-10 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Yip! That's the plan! The restaurant area would have framed original artwork on the walls, maybe a "Themed" menu (The Superman Sandwich, The Avengers Combo meal, etc), but other than that I'm counting on each half of the business carrying the other half during slow times :)

Date: 2008-04-10 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strryeyedgrrl.livejournal.com
You know, I could see something like this working out really well in the Downtown Tacoma or North Tacoma/Stadium District area as well.

*cough*

Date: 2008-04-10 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
But to do it in tacoma, wouldn't we have to offer Crack Cocaine as a side-dish?

:P

Date: 2008-04-10 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strryeyedgrrl.livejournal.com
See, you really need to visit Tacoma more often. If you want to buy some crack, you need to be in Central or South Tacoma. North Tacoma/Stadium District is the more indie-hipster scene.

If you want crack, you need come down my way towards Parkland. While you're there, you could get yourself a hooker that flashes the cars from the bus stop. Whee!

Date: 2008-04-10 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
I was gonna make the restaurant part be the default "Gaming" area... lots of tables, lots of chairs, 'Cafeteria" style seating...

As long as you've bought something to eat or drink, you can be there for 2 hours. Register reciepts will be time-stamped.

Date: 2008-04-10 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotski.livejournal.com
OMG! My husband just about shat himself when I told him this! He was thinking of doing something almost identical to that! Except not only hero's and sub's, like gourmet sandwiches (he's been a gourmet chef for quite a few years now). It's so funny how much you have in common with my husband! Teehehehe.

Date: 2008-04-10 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Too cool! My idea was to have your 'Common" sandwiches on the menu for the non-adventurous, then having my "Themed" sandwiches be all Gourmet!

Where do you live and how much money should we pump in to this business of ours :D

Date: 2008-04-10 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotski.livejournal.com
Hehehe. Well, for the moment we're still in Ellensburg. We'll be here until March 2009 (when the husband graduates from CWU) then we're moving back to the west side...either Lynnwood (I'm trying to talk him into this, since I have tons of family still there) or Lake City, since he has sisters who live there. Hmmm, I can see a future business partner! :D

Date: 2008-04-10 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Dude, you *know* I'm in Lynnwood, right?

This could be AWESOME!!!

Date: 2008-04-10 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotski.livejournal.com
Do you remember me commenting you in the "Christmaslovers"commiunity!?! I was like "OMG! You're from Lynnwood!? I'M ORIGINALLY FROM LYNWOOD!!!" Teeehehehe. This could be VERY awesome! :)

Date: 2008-04-10 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Oh yeah... *THAT'S* how you got on my Friends List! i remember now :)

Date: 2008-04-10 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotski.livejournal.com
LOL! At least you remember now! :D

Date: 2008-04-10 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melancholywings.livejournal.com
The name is awsome. Would it be a resturant with a comic book theme? Or a comic book shop with a sandwhich counter? The first sounds more interesting to me, the second though isn't as appealing. I think it's more of the idea of a cook who sells comics as well, vs. a comic book guy who sells sandwhiches. A cook touching your food is more trustworthy and appealing.
And I like the idea of getting a couple of comics with a meal but there might be an issue of legal infridgement as it's a food premium? Then again maybe the sandwhich could be offered as part of a rewards program with the comics.
Sorry to go all QA.^^

Date: 2008-04-10 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
It would actually be two seperate shops, connected by the front section. I've seen businesses *sort of* like what i want to do before, like a sandwich shop and an antique store. But there would be a seperate crew doing the Food Prep than there would be doing the comic book selling, but just one central check-out cashier area. So in essence it would be both! A Comic-themed sandwich shop AND a comic book store with a sandwich counter!

Date: 2008-04-11 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elith.livejournal.com
Only problem with mixing the two...not sure if you'd want un-purchased merchandise in the food area. Could get mucked up quicker.

Date: 2008-04-11 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
No food allowed in to the comic shop... BIG SIGNS and employees to tell them NO!

Date: 2008-04-11 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pullipsushi.livejournal.com
Ah that works! I worked at a bookstore that was set up very similar, with a shop - cafe.

Date: 2008-04-10 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hallerlake.livejournal.com
There was a place in Ballard which was a pizza-by-the-slice joint on one side of the wall and a gaming/comic place on the other. They're outta business now, so I'm not sure that's a good recommendation. They had a lot of warhammer-esque games and not a lot of RPG stuff, and I don't know how much they had in the way of comics really. Ton of action figures though.

Date: 2008-04-10 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
My "Heroes" would be almost completely Comics, RPG and CCG. Those Warhammer kids are just too darned space-hogging!

Also, Pizza is a bit too greasy me thinks. Nothing but cold sandwiches for THIS shop!

Date: 2008-04-10 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sasjhwa.livejournal.com
Limit the amount of stuff you have to heat.

Yes, Warhammer takes a lot of shelf space and it is expensive to start since you can't just carry a few things. They want you to buy enough stuff to support at least one of their 3 primary games.

Date: 2008-04-10 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Exactly. Not only that, but you cna usually get the stuff on-line much cheaper than you can at a shop! The only way I ever see shops making money is by running tournaments, get a few players bored and waiting they'll eventually buy some stuff.

Date: 2008-04-11 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sasjhwa.livejournal.com
Not really. At least not with Warhammer. A lot of people don't buy over the Internet. A lot are too young to and there is the satisfaction of getting something immediately.

Date: 2008-04-10 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sasjhwa.livejournal.com
Tons of opinions and brainstorm ideas follow.

I think it is a good idea. The way I've seen it before is with a coffee shop attached to a store rather than a sandwich shop.

My first thought as far as workability was to look at similar style stores already out there. The closest I can come up with is the Borders cafe at Alderwood Mall. They have the set up (and I highly recommend getting in on the espresso bandwagon - low investment, high profit) with light food, beverages, and tables for eating. The merchandise is off to the side of the dining area. There are some tables and some fluffy chairs.

I would suggest keeping your menu very simple. It keeps investment low and also keeps your time behind the counter limited as well. I love Hot Dog on a Stick's menu. They have like 3 things. They can expand that to about 6. But that is all. Very simple. You can do similar with sandwiches.

A simple menu also allows you to limit your refrigeration needs, the clean up, etc. Less expense and less work for you would be good. Have a healthy selection of food and use that as a marketing tool.

One downside is that you have to enter the frightening world of restaurant regulation. There is a lot of paperwork, requirements, inspections, permits, ad infinitum that you have to go through to get established. It is certainly not impossible, but it is something to consider.

Another downside is that you will almost certainly need a couple of employees. That is more expense and paperwork and another level of government bureaucracy.

Hire a CPA. They will save you more money than they cost.

I would focus primarily on new comic books. I know you have a boat load of back issues, and that is fine, but don't turn the place into a garage sale. As a restaurant you need to look sharp and clean. Beaten up long boxes and the musty smell of decaying paper do not lend themselves to building that atmosphere. An immaculate store will also encourage people not to make messes. A messy store suggests you don't mind if people make a mess and the next thing you know Spider-Man is covered in mayo. I love the idea of giving out comic books with the meal though. Every meal is a kid's meal!

I would also recommend, once established, to reach out to the comic book and webcomic creators in the area. Get them to come in and sign books. Hang their photos on the wall (autographed 8x10s naturally) as celebrities that have visited.

Also participate in things like the 24 Hour Comic Book day and National Novel Writing Month. (google them if you are a hermit and don't know what they are)

Here is an idea. Every year at the Emerald City Comic Convention name a sandwich after a local comic celebrity. Make a ceremony out of it. Give out coupons to the audience. Your hero accepts the award (including a free sub a month for a year) and in doing so they endorse and advertise your store. They will likely put it on their website as an honor. This drives people who are part of your target audience into the store.

By the way, I love the name Heroes.

Date: 2008-04-10 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
All ideas I've already got, thanks!

I *have* seen it work with a musty setting, a place in lake City called "Craniums". They were a sandwich shop/antique & Collectibles store. His problem was not enough new stuff comeing in to make the antique store thrive, and the name of the business told no one what to expect when they came in. It was a happy accident that we discovered it! But it also had that simple "Food and tables up-frontish, store inventory to the side" format that really apeals to me... and an entirely enclosed kitchen area! You placed your order at a little window! It was *perfect*!

"Heroes"... I need to gets me some investors :)

Date: 2008-04-11 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sasjhwa.livejournal.com
Good luck finding investors. :D

Date: 2008-04-11 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecookielady.livejournal.com
What I wanna know is....

Do the employees get to wear costumes to work?? Cuz I'm already calculating the commute. And you KNOW I can kick butt in the waitstaff department :)

Date: 2008-04-11 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
I think Costumes would be for Special Occasions, all other times they would be optional. But there *would* be a uniform of some sort, probably your standard polo-shirt-with-a-logo and khakis. Because there's NOTHING more annoying than going in to a store and having no idea who the employees are!

Date: 2008-04-11 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecookielady.livejournal.com
Awwww.. I was hoping the employees would get to wear superhero costumes all the time. It's a themed restaurant, right? Hehehehe...

Date: 2008-04-11 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynna12000.livejournal.com
But Hey! it would give customers the chance to practice their telepathic powers: 'OK, who will service me my lunch?'

It is an intruiging idea.

Date: 2008-04-12 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abandonada.livejournal.com
Yes! Intriguing! The name, the idea, all of it.

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