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You are about to fight me.

To the DEATH.

There are only two weapons, and you get first choice... whichever one you DON'T use, I am going to use to kill you.

Which do you choose: Double-Bladed Lumberjack Axe, or Fully Fueled (Gas Powered) Running Lumberjack Chainsaw?

Date: 2010-01-19 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogh-sensei.livejournal.com
The obvious answer would be the chainsaw since it requires less skill to wield lethally, but if you're asking the question I assume you have some measure of skill wielding an axe. So chainsaw, because after I saw the handle off you'll just have a stick.

Date: 2010-01-19 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
I'm really not sure which one to take. Axe allows for more maneuverability, and it'll never run out of gas. Chainsaw does more damage very quickly, but is heavy and could very well get mishandled resulting in me killing myself.

It's really a difficult choice!

Date: 2010-01-19 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nani-ka.livejournal.com
Should you really be teaching those kinds of games to Molly this soon?

Date: 2010-01-19 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
She needs to learn these things *now*, before it's too late. Google some of the trailers for the movie "Kick-Ass" if you don't believe me!

Date: 2010-01-19 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nealbailey.livejournal.com
The axe. I can dodge your slow, cumbersome chainsaw until it stalls or runs out of gas.

More than likely, though, I'd let you choose whichever of the two you wanted and take neither, because with simple karate you can avoid either, move in, take down, kill, disarm.

I think most weapons are overrated, given the ease with which they can be stripped away and/or avoided at close quarters.

That's why I'd probably bring a knife to any fight I couldn't bring a rifle to.

Date: 2010-01-19 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
No fair using your sweet-ass mad phat Kung Fu skillz!!!

(and seriously how cool is it that you can ACTUALLY whip out Chuck Norris-calibre Karate to finish off a foe in real life?)

Date: 2010-01-19 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nealbailey.livejournal.com
Well, it'd be cooler if I hadn't actually realized that the actual chance of me using those skills despite a year and a half of devoted study is like, a billion to one.

But the truth is, you can teach someone (if they're willing to remember and practice) how to beat most anyone without any training in about two to eight hours.

The key (at least in my experience, which is not masterful) being to close when they least expect it with a plan, or use the fact that the foot is longer than the arm (something most people don't realize).

And if all that fails, three pretty typically easy to find pressure points won't.

But like I said, I'm no expert. I am, however, unafraid of confrontation, so that, I guess, puts me in the middle. Thus the brown belt.

Date: 2010-01-19 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Also, I think you would win by default when you refuse to take a weapon and instead take a Martial Arts stance, because I just might pee myself to death.

Date: 2010-01-19 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nealbailey.livejournal.com
That helps. Heh.

Actually, what I'm told works even better is to just pretend you know nothing, and I'd do that, because then they don't expect you.

Like, some guy makes like he's gonna throw down, I'll step back with my arms raised, apologizing, and then, when he comes at me, a good sharp front kick will ruin his day, and it'll look like I didn't do anything when the cops come.

Date: 2010-01-19 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cunninggod.livejournal.com
Most lumberjack chainsaws used professionally seem to have a really long guide bar...sure the ones most people have for non-professional usage are 16" or so, but what pops into my head when you say "Lumberjack Chainsaw" would be something around 30"-36" in order to handle the larger trees that pros deal with, plus it would have a HUGE motor in order to power that size of chain.

With that said, I'd go with the Double-Bladed Lumberjack Axe because I really don't think that you would be capable of handling a chainsaw of that size effectively - making you an easy target for me to hack into little pieces.

Date: 2010-01-19 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
That's EXACTLY the type of Chainsaw I'm speaking of... "The Man Eater". The only advantage that it has in this fight is that if you eve *nick* something with it, it keeps chewing through whatever it hit till there ain't nuthin' there no more. Kind of like a paper shredder.

I think it's odd that my mind INSTANTLY wants to go with the chainsaw, but when given just a few seconds of consideration I start to see how foolish it is.

Date: 2010-01-20 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sasjhwa.livejournal.com
If we were comparing you vs. me in a Spike TV Deadliest Warrior type show I would pick me with the double bladed two handed axe over you with a chainsaw.

For several years I was part of a frontiersman re-creation group and learned how to throw one with a reasonably high degree of accuracy. I also know how much damage they can do to a foot think piece of timber when they are thrown. Range would not be great but more than enough to throw and get out of your way. The question would be if you dodge it. I doubt it. But you might be able to avoid the killing blow on the throw.

You might be able to deflect it with the chainsaw but then you risk actually hurting yourself with your own weapon. That could be a possible ploy of mine. If it didn't hurt you it might hurt your weapon.

Another question would be if the wound the axe caused would be lethal. It is certainly capable of it but needs to hit vital areas to get an immediate killing blow. It isn't likely to dismember someone when being thrown unless you raised your arm to block it or something. More likely it will cause a serious wound that will have large amounts of bleeding.

The chainsaw is one of those lightsaber weapons though. One touch can do me serious harm. If the axe missed or did no damage, all advantage would go to the saw. I think if the axe were able to hit on the throw it wouldn't matter though. Then again chainsaws have a pretty good record of hurting the person who is using it.

I could just stay out of your range while you slowed down due to blood loss. But what if the axe were not thrown or if it missed but I was able to retrieve it?

One of the big disadvantages of the chainsaw is that it is freaking heavy when fully fueled and used without rest for more than a few minutes. How much stamina would you have chasing me around the arena with it? Eventually I believe I could out perform you and while you are gasping for air and trying to figure out how to get your arms to lift the bugger again it would be over.

The axe used in flight against your legs would likely cause you to either try to jump over it or pull your legs back (the instinctive response) either of which would put you in severe danger from your own weapon.

Ah, but you might just plunk yourself down in one spot and wait for me to come to you. You rest, conserve fuel, and wait. You would have a long wait because I'm not coming within melee range of your chainsaw for anything. I might get to within threatening range to force you to stand up and turn on your weapon but then fade back again. Done enough times you will get too tired and then I can win.

My physique vs. yours: Advantage me.
Distance Weapon: Advantage axe.
Close Combat Weapon: Advantage Chainsaw all the way.


Winner: Me (of course)

Date: 2010-01-20 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Yeah, but while you're explaining it all? just sneak-up behind you and start sawing away. POINT FOR THE NON-INTELLECTUAL!!!

Date: 2010-01-20 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sasjhwa.livejournal.com
Oh there is no explaining in the thunderdome. No one would hear me over the roar and chants of the crowd! :D

Date: 2010-01-20 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynna12000.livejournal.com
And while you two are going mano-a-mano w/the lumberjack toys I'll take care of both of you. Grenade launchers are beautiful things. Large problems taken care of at a distance. Pinpoint accuracy is not even required.

Winner: ME ME ME ME! It's ALL about ME! (the ME that is not You, that is)

Date: 2010-01-20 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
No rcket launchers, no grenades, no weapons other than the Axe and The CHainsaw. Somebody else tried t pull a similar stunt over on Facebook when I posted this question there.

Date: 2010-01-20 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynna12000.livejournal.com
Too late to protest...You're already dead.

Date: 2010-01-20 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schizoauthoress.livejournal.com
Double-Bladed Axe.

If only because I'd be (slightly) less likely to kill myself trying to wield it. XD

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