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Does THIS seem like a god thing or a bad thing to you? In a nutshell, it's all about Comcast trying to buy Disney. Now to *me* this is very cool for many reasons:

(1) [livejournal.com profile] collisions will officially be my "Co-Worker".
(2) My stock options for Comcast kicked in at somewhere around $30 a share... I'm sure that owning Disney would make it jump at least a little bit, right?
(3) There would finally be some competition for the "AOL/Time/Warner" behemoth, giving people at least *two* choices for their entertainment instead of just the one.

Really, I see this as a very good thing. So why is it that s ma Dsney fans are saying that it's a BAD thing? They all groan and moan about it, but they cant pipoint *why* they're groaning and moaning. I want to know why, dammit! WHY???

Date: 2004-02-12 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dotgirl.livejournal.com
It's not going to happen, so it doesn't really matter.

Date: 2004-02-12 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Oh okay...

Denial, party of one? Your table is ready! Right this way, please...

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Date: 2004-02-12 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hallerlake.livejournal.com
Sounds like an occasion for a friendly wager :)

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Date: 2004-02-12 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Ooh! Ooh! But what if Dan Akroyd and Eddie Murphy find out about it first, and they concoct a wacky scheme to make it so that we *both* lose?

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Date: 2004-02-12 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hallerlake.livejournal.com
Then I have some new candidates for my deadpool list for next year

Date: 2004-02-12 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opaleyes.livejournal.com
Well... I guess the way I see it is that Disney is doomed anyway. Something might as well be done with it. I'm just very dissapointed in Disney lately. They took something SO wonderful and are stoning it to death. So hey, I dunno.

Date: 2004-02-12 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
Yeah, it is sad... I want Eisener out of there. I think the whole Disney name-sake should be handed over to the folks from Pixa, personally. But in the mean time, hey! If I can make a buck or two off my stocks AND get discounts at the Disney Theme Parks in the mean time, then why not be happy for the way things ae working :)

Date: 2004-02-12 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opaleyes.livejournal.com
Yeah, Eisner is a retard. Handing it all over to the Pixar folks is not a bad idea at all. I can see them being the next Disney...

Date: 2004-02-12 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
They totaly are! Think of all the greatest Disney films of the past several years... the *good* ones that kids actually *liked* were done by Pixar! Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Bugs Life, Finding Nemo...

Then there's the bombs. Treasure Planet, Brother Bear... whatever. All Disney, all too corporate.

Date: 2004-02-13 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opaleyes.livejournal.com
Very very true. And I think that that's where Disney is getting confused. They automatically associate that it must be the 3D animation that makes the films so succesful when in reality it is the heart behind them. disney killing their 2D department really isn't going to help.

Pixar worked on Monsters Inc as well didn't they? I don't think Disney has a 3D team that nice yet... God I loved Monsters Inc.

Feeling Safe

Date: 2004-02-12 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkswordangel.livejournal.com
To I and my kids, it's more a Traditional Family Values that us, mothers always depend on. Look at the world to day, nothing but violences and they younger kids and moms like me. (Single Moms,like me) Feels safe with Disney.

Re: Feeling Safe

Date: 2004-02-12 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkswordangel.livejournal.com
Corrected Version...I type to fast.

To my kids and I, it's more a Traditional Family Values to us, "The Mothers" always depend on. Look at the world to day, nothing but violences and the younger kids and moms like me.

(Single Moms,like me) Feels safe with Disney.

Re: Feeling Safe

Date: 2004-02-12 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
So would you no longer feel safe with Disney/Comcast?

Re: Feeling Safe

Date: 2004-02-12 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkswordangel.livejournal.com
I think, it's really up to what they have to offer. Will it still be traditional as I was raise. Or will I have be the Red Tail Hawk to examine it? Can I trust them on what they are going produces for our children.

I'm old fashion...My kids are only allowed to play the Atari 2600. X box is just too violent for a 5 and 8 year.

Date: 2004-02-13 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z3ro666.livejournal.com
Surely, this isn't a minute fraction of the argument against this undeniably hostile takeover, but just to put things initially in perspective, let's analyze your reasons for it being cool (knowing well, of course, that the first one was in jest):

(1) collisions will officially be my "Co-Worker".
Joke, I hope to all things (un)holy...

(2) My stock options for Comcast kicked in at somewhere around $30 a share... I'm sure that owning Disney would make it jump at least a little bit, right?

Of course. Comcast could benefit greatly, but please tell me where Disney's benefit would come from, taking in mind the recent start of Disney's financial recovery? Source hunt, research, and you'll find evidence of this.

But let's say Comcast fails (as many many market analysts are predicting): What lies in store for Disney? Or let's think of it this way: Disney as a solitary, personal, creatively-driven company, absorbed into a massive, soulless conglomerate. I'm not about to crack open champagne over the current state of affairs in the company, but NO GOOD will come out of a loss of independence... reform needs to come from within. Why?

Internal reform will bring about a return to financial stability, with adherence to the principles and values that the company represents as is. Think of it this way: People are deriding Eisner for straying from the Disney philosophy, and he is a part of the company... do you really think that it is profitable for Comcast to adhere to this philosophy? External "white knights" will support the company's philosophy as long as it is profitable.

(3) There would finally be some competition for the "AOL/Time/Warner" behemoth, giving people at least *two* choices for their entertainment instead of just the one.

So what is Disney now, chopped liver? This is totally irrelevant to the state of affairs... Disney is an entity that is ingrained in American culture, and is a known company around the world. It has total character, and undeniable appeal. The four parks in Walt Disney World occupy the top four spots in terms of amusement park attendence. Why the hell would they need Comcast's help in terms of distribution?

- Adam

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Date: 2004-02-13 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z3ro666.livejournal.com
Oh, and like an earlier response noted: It isn't going to happen anyway.

PS: Take a look at the results of this Wall Street Journal poll on the subject. (http://discussions.wsj.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=wsjvoices&msg=3100.1&ctx=256)

- Adam

Date: 2004-02-13 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captain-slinky.livejournal.com
How did Comcast get classified as "Soulless"? This is a point I've never understood. They pay their employees great, give great bennefits, do tons of charity work every year, and I have yet to come across a disgruntled Comcast employee (ex or otherwise).

You can keep on letting your glass be half-empty and refuse to accept that Comcast might make a difference for the better. I'll go ahead and let my glass be half FULL, the way Walt would have liked it!

And seriously... what could Comcast do that Eisener hasn't already done, even if they ARE some huge, heartless, soulless corporation? What are you people so scarred of?

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Date: 2004-02-16 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] savvypoetwench.livejournal.com
How did Comcast get classified as "Soulless"? This is a point I've never understood. They pay their employees great, give great bennefits, do tons of charity work every year, and I have yet to come across a disgruntled Comcast employee (ex or otherwise).

Heh... I bet you can come across some (or you know, a lot) disgruntled Comcast customers... Why, here's one right now! *waves* Comcast has one job: to distribute media. And they can't even do it well. Unlike Comcast, Disney... Disney is ingrained in cultures across the world.

Guh... anyone fancy taking a trip to ComcastLand? Or ParisComcast? How about Comcast World?? Yeah... no thanks.

And seriously... what could Comcast do that Eisener hasn't already done, even if they ARE some huge, heartless, soulless corporation? What are you people so scarred of?

Oh, that's an incentive to be excited about Comcast taking over Disney... Comcast couldn't be worse than Eisner so why not? What Disney fans, employees, and shareholders want is for Disney to return to Walt's vision: the wonderful, creativity-centered, family-oriented company it once was... before huge selve-serving powerhouses came into power (Eisner... and Comcast if anything happens, not that it will).

www.savedisney.com

Long live Disney!

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